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. >> i think he was criticizing the ryan-esque vision on medicare and taxes. it's hard to say what else he displayed passion about. i have felt all year this is the biggest hole in their campaign. i don't think he has given americans a clear sense of what he would do to make the next four years better than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more aggressive. can he be more persuasive about his own plans? >> and mitt romney ought to be more aggressive in pushing the president to talk about his agenda. because of course the president is tying him to the ryan budget, for better or worse, what is he going to do about medicare, what's he going to do about tax reform. it is true that romney hasn't put a lot of meat on the bones when it comes to what he would do to reform the tax code. what deductions would he cap. he started getting at that a little bit this past week. well, then why doesn't he push the president for some more d
. >> i think he was criticizing the ryan-esque vision on medicare and taxes. it's hard to say what else he displayed passion about. i have felt all year this is the biggest hole in their campaign. i don't think he has given americans a clear sense of what he would do to make the next four years better than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more...
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we have the jack ryan opposition research file we are releasing in parts, we're going to soon be releasing in full. there's a lot about obama people say they don't know and we think there's a void to be filled there so we're going to do it. >> your basic point is he needs to be fully vetted, that back in 2008 he was not fully vettedoned you want to make sure this time around he is, is that fair? >> and the press was con plit is. this was an open event and they chose not to cover it. vince, thank you very much. that's it for this show. thank you for watching. the more information about any of these candidates, mitt romney, barack obama, just put it right out there, free speech. that's free markets. i'm kudlow. we'll see you monday. up. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on flying and tomorrow we will up it yet again. f
we have the jack ryan opposition research file we are releasing in parts, we're going to soon be releasing in full. there's a lot about obama people say they don't know and we think there's a void to be filled there so we're going to do it. >> your basic point is he needs to be fully vetted, that back in 2008 he was not fully vettedoned you want to make sure this time around he is, is that fair? >> and the press was con plit is. this was an open event and they chose not to cover it....
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i can't imagine he would want to go into the weeds with paul ryan and talk about budget baselines. he'll talk about the kind of narrative, the middle class, the folks that he believes -- >> the ones buried in the last four years? >> i think joe biden really does connect with average voters in a way most politicians don't. and i think it will be tough. >> tony, you and the steelers, man. anything happens to them, and i got to hear from you. >> i have not had a chance on air to congratulate you with the reds. amazing season. >> thank you. they're 5:1 odds. i think the nationalses are slightly above that. but i checked the game is saturday 8:38. i'm so excited because last time i got to the playoffs, remember what happened? they got no hit. i'm like watching it, waiting for a hit. i waited and waited and there never was one. anyway, gentlemen -- go ahead. >> what's that, football? >> listen to you. >> i know you'll have chuck todd on later today, but on this question, if you look at like some of the expectations from the wall street journal poll, on the feelings about the economy and
i can't imagine he would want to go into the weeds with paul ryan and talk about budget baselines. he'll talk about the kind of narrative, the middle class, the folks that he believes -- >> the ones buried in the last four years? >> i think joe biden really does connect with average voters in a way most politicians don't. and i think it will be tough. >> tony, you and the steelers, man. anything happens to them, and i got to hear from you. >> i have not had a chance on...
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paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, did you see mitt romney actually shifting positions or emphasizing different elements of his positions? because when i watched and what i saw was a different approach to governance on display and a very different set of policies he was underscoring but not actually going off any of the policies he had espoused up to that night. >> i think you're right. what's been different was tone more than substance, style more than substance. i also think it's not a surprise that that's what he did at a debate that is not strictly for the republican audience. i think he's appealing to a broader group of voters. one of the things that romney has bee
paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, did you see mitt romney...
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mitt romney and his partner paul ryan, not his wife, will gut medicare. they have no answer how they're going to do a revenue-neutral budget i know i'm politics orened but you have to mesh-- >> eliot: it's the lack of recreation that will permit the vineyard to be shattered. that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second term. i know-- >> no complacency. >> eliot: all caveats aside. >> i think a better direction and no complacency. >> eliot: that's exactly right. the pennsylvania voting i.d. structure top texas struck down. the courts are doing something hugely important. the rule of law is being established as a foundation piece of the electoral process once again. >> that is important. >> eliot: back to my question. second term you have been critical of president obama on issues of civil liberties foreign policies, where do you see him going? >> on that front we have an editorial in our
mitt romney and his partner paul ryan, not his wife, will gut medicare. they have no answer how they're going to do a revenue-neutral budget i know i'm politics orened but you have to mesh-- >> eliot: it's the lack of recreation that will permit the vineyard to be shattered. that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second...
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and the paul ryan budget, the romney/ryan budget would cut veterans affairs funding by $11 billion in the first year. look, we're a nation that has been in war for ten years, one of which will be our longest war, only less than 1% of our population is serving in those two wars. it seems as though mitt romney and paul ryan are more interested in making sure that 0.1% of our population gets a massive tax cut than making sure we honor our commitment to those who served in iraq and afghanistan over the last decade representing less than 1% of our population. it's a matter of values and what you value. look, these are honorable, decent men, but they seem to value making sure that the wealthiest among us get a tax cut on the backs of veterans, 22 million strong in america, 1 million in ohio, many, many in iowa and new hampshire where i just was, and less than 1% of them having served over the last decade. >> beau, you bring up the romney/ryan plan, specifically paul ryan's plan is what has gotten a lot of press over the last year, but when we speak about the preps that your dad is going thr
and the paul ryan budget, the romney/ryan budget would cut veterans affairs funding by $11 billion in the first year. look, we're a nation that has been in war for ten years, one of which will be our longest war, only less than 1% of our population is serving in those two wars. it seems as though mitt romney and paul ryan are more interested in making sure that 0.1% of our population gets a massive tax cut than making sure we honor our commitment to those who served in iraq and afghanistan over...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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ryan appears to lose his voice. however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign. welcome to both of you. kar karen, to quote jack nicholson in "a few good men" romney and ryan, they just can't handle the truth can they? >> they can't. the level of intellectual dishonesty, i use the wort intellectual half joking, they took the vice president's comments and truncated them without the most important part, which has been the most important part of what the president has been talking about, what democrats have been talking about, and that is the idea that those at the top should be doing their
ryan appears to lose his voice. however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for...
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but there is gaffe baggery and facts and figures. >> and ryan for not perceived as a policy wonk. and he has to connect with the people one on one. >> he does, like romney, they are like ward cleaver charm cute and don't seem threatening and good husbands and fathers and nothing that seems mean about them. i expect it to be similar though it will not be as good as romney and obama. they were playing c-span and replaying the reagan debate. romney was better than reagan in the debates. >> ann thank you . a pleasure . >> good to see you . >> and across the board. pundits agree that governor romney won the presidential debate. and the challenger coming again or will the story change. testimony us if you are on team biden and romney, why. and tweet your answers and i will read your responses later in this hour. >> this fox news alert. two u.s. service members died in insurgent attack in eastern afghanistan. just last week u.s. marked a somber mile tone with 2000us troops killed in the ongoing conflict. it comes amid strong words with leon panetta with amid karzai . he claimed that the
but there is gaffe baggery and facts and figures. >> and ryan for not perceived as a policy wonk. and he has to connect with the people one on one. >> he does, like romney, they are like ward cleaver charm cute and don't seem threatening and good husbands and fathers and nothing that seems mean about them. i expect it to be similar though it will not be as good as romney and obama. they were playing c-span and replaying the reagan debate. romney was better than reagan in the...
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paul ryan upons to throw granny over the cliff. they don't care about kids with down's syndrome. the lies have been going on for a long time. >> it is not going to hold up, sean. here's why. we have three more debates. one next week with pall and all joe biden -- i am looking forward-- >>> this is going to be a doozy. >> it will be great. i don't want to under-sell joe biden because he's pretty clever with good rhetoric. he obviously sticks his foot in his mouth, but he is quick on his feet and he is relatable to people. so i don't think we can take that lightly. but two more debates with the president. two more opportunities, hopefully, as unfiltered as we were last week. i think, of all the problems and all of the -- i think huge disappointments with this president at the debate, he continues to perpetrate this myth that somehow he has this magic plan to get our deficit and debts under control, after he himself number 1, delivered three massive deficits, every year he has been president-- >>> $6 trillion. to be accurate, as of today, $5.54 trillion in new debt. it will be $6 tr
paul ryan upons to throw granny over the cliff. they don't care about kids with down's syndrome. the lies have been going on for a long time. >> it is not going to hold up, sean. here's why. we have three more debates. one next week with pall and all joe biden -- i am looking forward-- >>> this is going to be a doozy. >> it will be great. i don't want to under-sell joe biden because he's pretty clever with good rhetoric. he obviously sticks his foot in his mouth, but he is...
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so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb numbers and cbo and sequestration. a lot of these things that the average americans are really not familiar with. he wants to be clear. joe is a very -- excuse me, the vice president is a very attractive guy and if i were him, i would be playing on that as well. >> senator, two things, if i may. one is the ongoing situation regarding the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed, afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> well, let me tell you what's not vague, and that is five days after, five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed
so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb numbers and cbo and sequestration. a lot of these things that the average americans are really not familiar with. he wants to be clear. joe is a very -- excuse me, the vice president is a very attractive guy and if i were him, i would be playing on that as well. >> senator, two things, if i may. one is the...
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it is perhaps because the economy is not doing as well as he would like but he is hitting romney and ryan on women's health issues, specifically on the issue of abortion. the republican platform that would deny abortion in cases of rape on incest. that is not necessarily romney's position, but an issue like the economy in which the country has to go forward rather than back. >> when it comes to a woman's right to make her own health care choices, they want to take us back to the policies of the 1950s. this election is your chance to make sure that doesn't happen, virginia. that decisions that affect a woman's health aren't up to politicians. they are not up to insurance companies. they are up to you. >>reporter: the president is counting on the stronger support he gets from women generally to offset romney's stronger support particularly among white males. >>trace: thank you, wendell, following the president in cleveland. governor romney says the 7.8 percent unemployment rate does not tell the whole story. here is what the g.o.p. nominee told supporters in virginia today. >> the reason it
it is perhaps because the economy is not doing as well as he would like but he is hitting romney and ryan on women's health issues, specifically on the issue of abortion. the republican platform that would deny abortion in cases of rape on incest. that is not necessarily romney's position, but an issue like the economy in which the country has to go forward rather than back. >> when it comes to a woman's right to make her own health care choices, they want to take us back to the policies...
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. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy, i wouldn't think that. >> it's a problem to underestimate joe biden. he is a gaffe a minute sometimes. but he does have a way of connecting with mitts class and lower-middle class, working family, voters. he has a way to make an emotional connection with them and the republicans should watch out. >> greta: have you spent a lot of time in ohio. the numbers are closing in ohio. >> they look better after the debate. but we haven't had enough days for the tracking polls to show the full effect of the debate. but sam's right, the debates are taking over for the schedule now. we have the next one on the 11th, vice-presidential and then -- we are talking about that until the 16th and the next one is the 62nd. so the debates are the story the next 10, 15 days. >> 30 seconds left. from reuters, bad news from obam a1 in 5 said it made them feel more negative about him after the debate. >> that's how they will feel unti
. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy, i wouldn't think that. >> it's a problem to underestimate joe biden. he is a gaffe a minute sometimes. but he does have a way of connecting with mitts class and lower-middle class, working family, voters. he has a way to make an emotional connection with them and the republicans should watch out. >> greta: have you spent a...
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allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remaining two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female go
allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remaining two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage...
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in virginia governor romney was with congressman ryan there. they had the fireworks, and it actually reminlded me of when the republicans would criticize the democrats for having those pillars remember at the last democratic national convention. quite a beautiful sight, but even chuck todd and our first read team noted that image alone could look like you still have a few more debates to go. >> well, i think that's right. look, i think the romney campaign knows they don't want to be seen as too over the top either in their own comments or exuberance or the fireworks, which i system they weren't trying to suggest that this was the end of the election. >> absolutely not. >> they were having a moment to sell bralcelebrate and if the s on the other foot, i suspect obama would take heat for it. i doubt we'll have fireworks at the nekz presidential debate. >> you don't know. we might have a different kind of fireworks with vice president joe biden, which so many say now democrats are concerned of whether or not he will help or hurt. we'll talk about
in virginia governor romney was with congressman ryan there. they had the fireworks, and it actually reminlded me of when the republicans would criticize the democrats for having those pillars remember at the last democratic national convention. quite a beautiful sight, but even chuck todd and our first read team noted that image alone could look like you still have a few more debates to go. >> well, i think that's right. look, i think the romney campaign knows they don't want to be seen...
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important, maybe more important than past vice presidential debates have been in the sense that if ryan does well, i think it's really going to substantially help that momentum that romney has established last week and will be very important, and so the stakes are very high on this one. >> you know what? that's another great point. after the 2004 debate when it looked like george bush hadn't had a very good evening, dick cheney actually stopped the momentum that the kerry campaign had in the vice presidential debate. and mark will remember that better than anybody. it's joe biden's job here to go in there and basically change the story line and win that debate, and i think joe biden actually is a much better debater than most people understand. >> well, we'll see. great one to watch. by the way, god gave us all different weapons. like that old movie "spartacus." one guy had the net, the other had the knife. give him a little knife, a long net, give him the other thing. thank you, mark mckinnon, steve, too. tonight it's 10:00 eastern watch a special friday night campaign edition of "the
important, maybe more important than past vice presidential debates have been in the sense that if ryan does well, i think it's really going to substantially help that momentum that romney has established last week and will be very important, and so the stakes are very high on this one. >> you know what? that's another great point. after the 2004 debate when it looked like george bush hadn't had a very good evening, dick cheney actually stopped the momentum that the kerry campaign had in...
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the ryan budget died in the senate. undeterred, ryan unveiled a second version of his budget. this one would have cut $1.76 trillion from the taxes of the top one-half of the top 1% over ten years. which brings us to the current campaign. during the republican primary every candidate in the field offered tax cuts that it turned out would most benefit the wealthy. a number of the plans proposed, herman cain's, newt gingrich's came right out and said explicitly they lowered taxes for the wealthy and some raised taxes at the bottom quite explicitly. i suppose it is to mitt romney's credit he did not have the most cruelly aggressive tax plan in the primary. it's underappreciated that he is currently proposing at least three major separate tax cuts all of which would disproportionately benefit the rich. first, he's proposing that all of the bush tax cuts be made permanent. the tax cut of $3 trillion for the wealthiest over the next ten years. second, he's proposing to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. the tax policy center estimates that just over half of the corporate ta
the ryan budget died in the senate. undeterred, ryan unveiled a second version of his budget. this one would have cut $1.76 trillion from the taxes of the top one-half of the top 1% over ten years. which brings us to the current campaign. during the republican primary every candidate in the field offered tax cuts that it turned out would most benefit the wealthy. a number of the plans proposed, herman cain's, newt gingrich's came right out and said explicitly they lowered taxes for the wealthy...
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and i think the only thing that would worry me is if i really believed that romney and ryan were going to get elected and they were going to come in and dramatically cut government spending, that would lead to a recession, and that would worry me. but i don't think they're going to get elected, but more importantly, i don't think they would do that if they did get elected. nears no republican that ever has. i think ceos are focused on what the consumer is doing, what are their customers doing. and as jim cramer said a little earlier, i think between 23 and 27 minutes of the world's focus was on this last night. the people have moved on to more substantive topics now. >> so the bottom line is that it does not matter for a domestic business who gets elected? when it comes to the fundamental -- >> i think it does matter, but i think it matters because i think barack obama is the person who is most likely to be able to continue growing the economy. and the things that romney has proposed are unlikely to be successful. but i don't think ceos react to something like a debate. you know, they'
and i think the only thing that would worry me is if i really believed that romney and ryan were going to get elected and they were going to come in and dramatically cut government spending, that would lead to a recession, and that would worry me. but i don't think they're going to get elected, but more importantly, i don't think they would do that if they did get elected. nears no republican that ever has. i think ceos are focused on what the consumer is doing, what are their customers doing....